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  Cle。True。

  Ath。Then,returningtothecouncil,Iwouldsayfurther,thatifweletitdowntobetheanchorofthestate,ourcity,havingeverythingwhichissuitabletoher,willpreserveallthatwewishtopreserve。

  Cle。Whatdoyoumean?

  Ath。Nowisthetimeformetospeakthetruthinallearnestness。

  Cle。Wellsaid,andIhopethatyouwillfulfilyourintention。

  Ath。Know,Cleinias,thateverything,inallthatitdoes,hasanaturalsaviour,asofananimalthesoulandtheheadarethechiefsaviours。

  Cle。Oncemore,whatdoyoumean?

  Ath。Thewell-beingofthosetwoisobviouslythepreservationofeverylivingthing。

  Cle。Howisthat?

  Ath。Thesoul,besidesotherthings,containsmind,andthehead,besidesotherthings,containssightandhearing;andthemind,minglingwiththenoblestofthesenses,andbecomingonewiththem,maybetrulycalledthesalvationofall。

  Cle。Yes,Quiteso。

  Ath。Yes,indeed;butwithwhatisthatintellectconcernedwhich,minglingwiththesenses,isthesalvationofshipsinstormsaswellasinfairweather?Inaship,whenthepilotandthesailorsunitetheirperceptionswiththepilotingmind,dotheynotsaveboththemselvesandtheircraft?

  Cle。Verytrue。

  Ath。Wedonotwantmanyillustrationsaboutsuchmatters:-Whataimwouldthegeneralofanarmy,orwhataimwouldaphysicianproposetohimself,ifhewereseekingtoattainsalvation?

  Cle。Verygood。

  Ath。Doesnotthegeneralaimatvictoryandsuperiorityinwar,anddonotthephysicianandhisassistantsaimatproducinghealthinthebody?

  Cle。Certainly。

  Ath。Andaphysicianwhoisignorantaboutthebody,thatistosay,whoknowsnotthatwhichwejustnowcalledhealth,orageneralwhoknowsnotvictory,oranyotherswhoareignorantoftheparticularsoftheartswhichwementioned,cannotbesaidtohaveunderstandingaboutanyofthesematters。

  Cle。Theycannot。

  Ath。Andwhatwouldyousayofthestate?Ifapersonprovestobeignorantoftheaimtowhichthestatesmanshouldlook,oughthe,inthefirstplace,tobecalledaruleratall;further,willheeverbeabletopreservethatofwhichhedoesnotevenknowtheaim?

  Cle。Impossible。

  Ath。Andtherefore,ifoursettlementofthecountryistobeperfect,weoughttohavesomeinstitution,which,asIwassaying,willtellwhatistheaimofthestate,andwillinformushowwearetoattainthis,andwhatlaworwhatmanwilladviseustothatend。Anystatewhichhasnosuchinstitutionislikelytobedevoidofmindandsense,andinallheractionswillproceedbymerechance。

  Cle。Verytrue。

  Ath。Inwhich,then,ofthepartsorinstitutionsofthestateisanysuchguardianpowertobefound?Canwesay?

  Cle。Iamnotquitecertain,Stranger;butIhaveasuspicionthatyouarereferringtotheassemblywhichyoujustnowsaidwastomeetatnight。

  Ath。Youunderstandmeperfectly,Cleinias;andwemustassume,astheargumentiniplies,thatthiscouncilpossessesallvirtue;andthebeginningofvirtueisnottomakemistakesbyguessingmanythings,buttolooksteadilyatonething,andonthistofixallouraims。

  Cle。Quitetrue。

  Ath。Thennowweshallseewhythereisnothingwonderfulinstatesgoingastray-thereasonisthattheirlegislatorshavesuchdifferentaims;noristhereanythingwonderfulinsomelayingdownastheirruleofjustice,thatcertainindividualsshouldbearruleinthestate,whethertheybegoodorbad,andothersthatthecitizensshouldberich,notcaringwhethertheyaretheslavesofothermenornot。Thetendencyofothers,again,istowardsfreedom;andsomelegislatewithaviewtotwothingsatonce-theywanttobeatthesametimefreeandthelordsofotherstates;butthewisestmen,astheydeemthemselvestobe,looktoalltheseandsimilaraims,andthereisnooneofthemwhichtheyexclusivelyhonour,andtowhichtheywouldhaveallthingslook。

  Cle。Then,Stranger,ourformerassertionwillhold,forweweresayingthatlawsgenerallyshouldlooktoonethingonly;andthis,asweadmitted,wasrightlysaidtobevirtue。

  Ath。Yes。

  Cle。Andwesaidthatvirtuewasoffourkinds?

  Ath。Quitetrue。

  Cle。Andthatmindwastheleaderofthefour,andthattoherthethreeothervirtuesandallotherthingsoughttohaveregard?

  Ath。Youfollowmecapitally,Cleinias,andIwouldaskyoutofollowmetotheend,forwehavealreadysaidthatthemindofthepilot,themindofthephysicianandofthegenerallooktothatonethingtowhichtheyoughttolook;andnowwemayturntomindpolitical,ofwhich,asofahumancreature,wewillaskaquestion:-O

  wonderfulbeing,andtowhatareyoulooking?Thephysicianisabletotellhissingleaiminlife,butyou,thesuperior,asyoudeclareyourselftobe,ofallintelligentbeings,whenyouareaskedarenotabletotell。Canyou,Megillus,andyou,Cleinias,saydistinctlywhatistheaimofmindpolitical,inreturnforthemanyexplanationsofthingswhichIhavegivenyou?

  Cle。Wecannot,Stranger。

  Ath。Well,butoughtwenottodesiretoseeit,andtoseewhereitistobefound?

  Cle。Forexample,where?

  Ath。Forexample,weweresayingthattherearefourkindsofvirtue,andastherearefourofthem,eachofthemmustbeone。

  Cle。Certainly。

  Ath。Andfurther,allfourofthemwecallone;forwesaythatcourageisvirtue,andthatprudenceisvirtue,andthesameofthetwoothers,asiftheywereinrealitynotmanybutone,thatis,virtue。

  Cle。Quiteso。

  Ath。Thereisnodifficultyinseeinginwhatwaythetwodifferfromoneanother,andhavereceivedtwonames,andsooftherest。Butthereismoredifficultyinexplainingwhywecallthesetwoandtherestofthembythesinglenameofvirtue。

  Cle。Howdoyoumean?

  Ath。IhavenodifficultyinexplainingwhatImean。Letusdistributethesubjectquestionsandanswers。

  Cle。Oncemore,whatdoyoumean?

  Ath。Askmewhatisthatonethingwhichcallvirtue,andthenagainspeakofastwo,onepartbeingcourageandtheotherwisdom。Iwilltellyouhowthatoccurs:-Oneofthemhastodowithfear;inthisthebeastsalsoparticipate,andquiteyoungchildren-Imeancourage;

  foracourageoustemperisagiftofnatureandnotofreason。Butwithoutreasonthereneverhasbeen,oris,orwillbeawiseandunderstandingsoul;itisofadifferentnature。

  Cle。Thatistrue。

  Ath。Ihavenowtoldyouinwhatwaythetwoaredifferent,anddoyouinreturntellmeinwhatwaytheyareoneandthesame。SupposethatIaskyouinwhatwaythefourareone,andwhenyouhaveansweredme,youwillhavearighttoaskofmeinreturninwhatwaytheyarefour;andthenletusproceedtoenquirewhetherinthecaseofthingswhichhaveanameandalsoadefinitiontothem,trueknowledgeconsistsinknowingthenameonlyandnotthedefinition。

  Canhewhoisgoodforanythingbeignorantofallthiswithoutdiscreditwheregreatandglorioustruthsareconcerned?

  Cle。Isupposenot。

  Ath。Andisthereanythinggreatertothelegislatorandtheguardianofthelaw,andtohimwhothinksthatheexcelsallothermeninvirtue,andhaswonthepalmofexcellence,thattheseveryqualitiesofwhichwearenowspeaking-courage,temperance,wisdom,justice?

  Cle。Howcantherebeanythinggreater?

  Ath。Andoughtnottheinterpreters,theteachersthelawgivers,theguardiansoftheothercitizens,toexceltherestofmankind,andperfectlytoshowhimwhodesirestolearnandknoworwhoseevilactionsrequiretobepunishedandreproved,whatisthenatureofvirtueandvice?Orshallsomepoetwhohasfoundhiswayintothecity,orsomechancepersonwhopretendstobeaninstructorofyouth,showhimselftobebetterthanhimwhohaswontheprizeforeveryvirtue?Andcanwewonderthatwhentheguardiansarenotadequateinspeechoraction,andhavenoadequateknowledgeofvirtue,thecitybeingunguardedshouldexperiencethecommonfateofcitiesinourday?

  Cle。Wonder!no。

  Ath。Well,then,mustwedoaswesaid?Orcanwegiveourguardiansamorepreciseknowledgeofvirtueinspeechandactionthanthemanyhave?oristhereanywayinwhichourcitycanbemadetoresembletheheadandsensesofrationalbeingsbecausepossessingsuchaguardianpower?

  Cle。What,Stranger,isthedriftofyourcomparison?

  Ath。Dowenotseethatthecityisthetrunk,andarenottheyoungerguardians,whoarechosenfortheirnaturalgifts,placedintheheadofthestate,havingtheirsoulsallfullofeyes,withwhichtheylookaboutthewholecity?Theykeepwatchandhandovertheirperceptionstothememory,andinformtheeldersofallthathappensinthecity;andthosewhomwecomparedtothemind,becausetheyhavemanywisethoughts-thatistosay,theoldmen-takecounselandmakinguseoftheyoungermenastheirministers,andadvisingwiththem-inthiswaybothtogethertrulypreservethewholestate:-Shallthisorsomeotherbetheorderofourstate?Areallourcitizenstobeequalinacquirements,orshalltherebespecialpersonsamongthemwhohavereceivedamorecarefultrainingandeducation?

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