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  。Ilayitdownforaprinciple,thatthemomentsorquantitiesofmotioninbodiesareinadirectcompoundedreasonofthevelocitiesandquantitiesofMattercontainedinthem。

  Hence,wherethevelocitiesareequal,itfollowsthemomentsaredirectlyasthequantityofMatterineach。Butitisfoundbyexperiencethatallbodiesbatingthesmallinequalities,arisingfromtheresistanceoftheairdescendwithanequalvelocity;themotionthereforeofdescendingbodies,andconsequentlytheirgravity,whichisthecauseorprincipleofthatmotion,isproportionaltothequantityofMatter;whichwastobedemonstrated。

  。Youlayitdownasaself-evidentprinciplethatthequantityofmotioninanybodyisproportionaltothevelocity{242}andtakentogether;andthisismadeuseoftoproveapropositionfromwhencetheexistenceofisinferred。Prayisnotthisarguinginacircle?

  。InthepremiseIonlymeanthatthemotionisproportionaltothevelocity,jointlywiththeextensionandsolidity。

  。But,allowingthistobetrue,yetitwillnotthencefollowthatgravityisproportionalto,inyourphilosophicsenseoftheword;exceptyoutakeitforgrantedthatunknown,orwhateverelseyoucallit,isproportionaltothosesensiblequalities;whichtosupposeisplainlybeggingthequestion。Thatthereismagnitudeandsolidity,orresistance,perceivedbysense,Ireadilygrant;aslikewise,thatgravitymaybeproportionaltothosequalitiesI

  willnotdispute。Butthateitherthesequalitiesasperceivedbyus,orthepowersproducingthem,doexistina;thisiswhatIdeny,andyouindeedaffirm,but,notwithstandingyourdemonstration,havenotyetproved。

  。Ishallinsistnolongeronthatpoint。Doyouthink,however,youshallpersuademethatthenaturalphilosophershavebeendreamingallthiswhile?Praywhatbecomesofalltheirhypothesesandexplicationsofthephenomena,whichsupposetheexistenceofMatter?

  。Whatmeanyou,Hylas,bythe?

  。ImeantheappearanceswhichIperceivebymysenses。

  。Andtheappearancesperceivedbysense,aretheynotideas?

  。Ihavetoldyousoahundredtimes。

  。Therefore,toexplainthephenomena,is,toshewhowwecometobeaffectedwithideas,inthatmannerandorderwhereintheyareimprintedonoursenses。Isitnot?

  。Itis。

  。Now,ifyoucanprovethatanyphilosopherhasexplainedtheproductionofanyoneideainourmindsbythehelpof,Ishallforeveracquiesce,andlookonallthathathbeensaidagainstitasnothing;but,ifyoucannot,itisvaintourgetheexplicationofphenomena。ThataBeingendowedwithknowledgeandwillshouldproduceorexhibitideasiseasilyunderstood。ButthataBeingwhichisutterlydestituteofthesefacultiesshouldbeabletoproduceideas,orinanysorttoaffectanintelligence,thisIcanneverunderstand。ThisIsay,though{243}wehadsomepositiveconceptionofMatter,thoughweknewitsqualities,andcouldcomprehenditsexistence,wouldyetbesofarfromexplainingthings,thatitisitselfthemostinexplicablethingintheworld。Andyet,forallthis,itwillnotfollowthatphilosophershavebeendoingnothing;for,byobservingandreasoningupontheconnexionofideas,theydiscoverthelawsandmethodsofnature,whichisapartofknowledgebothusefulandentertaining。

  。Afterall,canitbesupposedGodwoulddeceiveallmankind?DoyouimagineHewouldhaveinducedthewholeworldtobelievethebeingofMatter,iftherewasnosuchthing?

  。Thateveryepidemicalopinion,arisingfromprejudice,orpassion,orthoughtlessness,maybeimputedtoGod,astheAuthorofit,Ibelieveyouwillnotaffirm。Whatsoeveropinionwefather\'onHim,itmustbeeitherbecauseHehasdiscoveredittousbysupernaturalrevelation;orbecauseitissoevidenttoournaturalfaculties,whichwereframedandgivenusbyGod,thatitisimpossibleweshouldwithholdourassentfromit。Butwhereistherevelation?orwhereistheevidencethatextortsthebeliefofMatter?Nay,howdoesitappear,thatMatter,,isthoughttoexistbyallmankind;orindeed,byanyexceptafewphilosophers,whodonotknowwhattheywouldbeat?Yourquestionsupposesthesepointsareclear;and,whenyouhaveclearedthem,Ishallthinkmyselfobligedtogiveyouanotheranswer。Inthemeantime,letitsufficethatItellyou,IdonotsupposeGodhasdeceivedmankindatall。

  。Butthenovelty,Philonous,thenovelty!Thereliesthedanger。Newnotionsshouldalwaysbediscountenanced;theyunsettlemen\'sminds,andnobodyknowswheretheywillend。

  。Whytherejectinganotionthathasnofoundation,eitherinsense,orinreason,orinDivineauthority,shouldbethoughttounsettlethebeliefofsuchopinionsasaregroundedonalloranyofthese,Icannotimagine。Thatinnovationsingovernmentandreligionaredangerous,andoughttobediscountenanced,Ifreelyown。Butistherethelikereasonwhytheyshouldbediscouragedinphilosophy?Themakinganythingknownwhichwasunknownbeforeisaninnovationinknowledge:

  and,ifallsuchinnovationshadbeenforbidden,{244}menwouldhavemadeanotableprogressintheartsandsciences。Butitisnoneofmybusinesstopleadfornoveltiesandparadoxes。Thatthequalitiesweperceivearenotontheobjects:thatwemustnotbelieveoursenses:thatweknownothingoftherealnatureofthings,andcanneverbeassuredevenoftheirexistence:thatrealcoloursandsoundsarenothingbutcertainunknownfiguresandmotions:thatmotionsareinthemselvesneitherswiftnorslow:thatthereareinbodiesabsoluteextensions,withoutanyparticularmagnitudeorfigure:thatathingstupid,thoughtless,andinactive,operatesonaspirit:thattheleastparticleofabodycontainsinnumerableextendedparts:——thesearethenovelties,thesearethestrangenotionswhichshockthegenuineuncorruptedjudgmentofallmankind;andbeingonceadmitted,embarrassthemindwithendlessdoubtsanddifficulties。AnditisagainsttheseandthelikeinnovationsIendeavourtovindicateCommonSense。Itistrue,indoingthis,Imayperhapsbeobligedtousesome,andwaysofspeechnotcommon。

  But,ifmynotionsareoncethoroughlyunderstood,thatwhichismostsingularinthemwill,ineffect,befoundtoamounttonomorethanthis——thatitisabsolutelyimpossible,andaplaincontradiction,tosupposeanyunthinkingBeingshouldexistwithoutbeingperceivedbyaMind。And,ifthisnotionbesingular,itisashameitshouldbeso,atthistimeofday,andinaChristiancountry。

  。Asforthedifficultiesotheropinionsmaybeliableto,。thoseareoutofthequestion。Itisyourbusinesstodefendyourownopinion。Cananythingbeplainerthanthatyouareforchangingallthingsintoideas?You,Isay,whoarenotashamedtochargeme。Thisissoplain,thereisnodenyingit。

  。Youmistakeme。Iamnotforchangingthingsintoideas,butratherideasintothings;sincethoseimmediateobjectsofperception,which,accordingtoyou,areonlyappearancesofthings,Itaketobetherealthingsthemselves。

  。Things!Youmaypretendwhatyouplease;butitiscertainyouleaveusnothingbuttheemptyformsofthings,theoutsideonlywhichstrikesthesenses。

  。Whatyoucalltheemptyformsandoutsideofthingsseemtometheverythingsthemselves。Noraretheyemptyorincomplete,otherwisethanuponyoursupposition——thatMatter{245}isanessentialpartofallcorporealthings。Weboth,therefore,agreeinthis,thatweperceiveonlysensibleforms:

  buthereinwediffer——youwillhavethemtobeemptyappearances,I,realbeings。Inshort,youdonottrustyoursenses,Ido。

  。Yousayyoubelieveyoursenses;andseemtoapplaudyourselfthatinthisyouagreewiththevulgar。Accordingtoyou,therefore,thetruenatureofathingisdiscoveredbythesenses。Ifso,whencecomesthatdisagreement?Whyisnotthesamefigure,andothersensiblequalities,perceivedallmannerofways?andwhyshouldweuseamicroscopethebettertodiscoverthetruenatureofabody,ifitwerediscoverabletothenakedeye?

  。Strictlyspeaking,Hylas,wedonotseethesameobjectthatwefeel;neitheristhesameobjectperceivedbythemicroscopewhichwasbythenakedeye。But,incaseeveryvariationwasthoughtsufficienttoconstituteanewkindofindividual,theendlessnumberofconfusionofnameswouldrenderlanguageimpracticable。Therefore,toavoidthis,aswellasotherinconvenienceswhichareobviousuponalittlethought,mencombinetogetherseveralideas,apprehendedbydiverssenses,orbythesamesenseatdifferenttimes,orindifferentcircumstances,butobserved,however,tohavesomeconnexioninnature,eitherwithrespecttoco-existenceorsuccession;allwhichtheyrefertoonename,andconsiderasonething。HenceitfollowsthatwhenIexamine,bymyothersenses,athingIhaveseen,itisnotinordertounderstandbetterthesameobjectwhichIhadperceivedbysight,theobjectofonesensenotbeingperceivedbytheothersenses。And,whenIlookthroughamicroscope,itisnotthatImayperceivemoreclearlywhatI

  perceivedalreadywithmybareeyes;theobjectperceivedbytheglassbeingquitedifferentfromtheformer。But,inbothcases,myaimisonlytoknowwhatideasareconnectedtogether;andthemoreamanknowsoftheconnexionofideas,themoreheissaidtoknowofthenatureofthings。What,therefore,ifourideasarevariable;whatifoursensesarenotinallcircumstancesaffectedwiththesameappearances。Itwillnotthencefollowtheyarenottobetrusted;orthattheyareinconsistenteitherwiththemselvesoranythingelse:exceptitbewithyourpreconceivednotionofIknownotwhatonesingle,unchanged,unperceivable,realNature,markedbyeachname。Whichprejudiceseemstohavetakenitsrisefromnotrightly{246}understandingthecommonlanguageofmen,speakingofseveraldistinctideasasunitedintoonethingbythemind。And,indeed,thereiscausetosuspectseveralerroneousconceitsofthephilosophersareowingtothesameoriginal:whiletheybegantobuildtheirschemesnotsomuchonnotionsasonwords,whichwereframedbythevulgar,merelyforconveniencyanddispatchinthecommonactionsoflife,withoutanyregardtospeculation。

  。MethinksIapprehendyourmeaning。

  。Itisyouropiniontheideasweperceivebyoursensesarenotrealthings,butimagesorcopiesofthem。Ourknowledge,therefore,isnofartherrealthanasourideasarethetrueofthose。But,asthesesupposedoriginalsareinthemselvesunknown,itisimpossibletoknowhowfarourideasresemblethem;orwhethertheyresemblethematall。Wecannot,therefore,besurewehaveanyrealknowledge。Farther,asourideasareperpetuallyvaried,withoutanychangeinthesupposedrealthings,itnecessarilyfollowstheycannotallbetruecopiesofthem:or,ifsomeareandothersarenot,itisimpossibletodistinguishtheformerfromthelatter。Andthisplungesusyetdeeperinuncertainty。Again,whenweconsiderthepoint,wecannotconceivehowanyidea,oranythinglikeanidea,shouldhaveanabsoluteexistenceoutofamind:norconsequently,accordingtoyou,howthereshouldbeanyrealthinginnature。Theresultof;allwhichisthatwearethrownintothemosthopelessandabandonedscepticism。Now,givemeleavetoaskyou,First,Whetheryourreferringideastocertainabsolutelyexistingunperceivedsubstances,astheiroriginals,benotthesourceofallthisscepticism?Secondly,whetheryouareinformed,eitherbysenseorreason,oftheexistenceofthoseunknownoriginals?And,incaseyouarenot,whetheritbenotabsurdtosupposethem?Thirdly,Whether,uponinquiry,youfindthereisanythingdistinctlyconceivedormeantbythe?Lastly,Whether,thepremisesconsidered,itbenotthewisestwaytofollownature,trustyoursenses,and,layingasideallanxiousthoughtaboutunknownnaturesorsubstances,admitwiththevulgarthoseforrealthingswhichareperceivedbythesenses?

  。Forthepresent,Ihavenoinclinationtotheansweringpart。Iwouldmuchratherseehowyoucangetoverwhatfollows。Prayarenottheobjectsperceivedbythe{247}

  ofone,likewiseperceivabletootherspresent?Iftherewereahundredmorehere,theywouldallseethegarden,thetrees,andflowers,asIseethem。ButtheyarenotinthesamemanneraffectedwiththeideasIframeinmy。Doesnotthismakeadifferencebetweentheformersortofobjectsandthelatter?

  。Igrantitdoes。NorhaveIeverdeniedadifferencebetweentheobjectsofsenseandthoseofimagination。Butwhatwouldyouinferfromthence?Youcannotsaythatsensibleobjectsexistunperceived,becausetheyareperceivedbymany。

  。IownIcanmakenothingofthatobjection:butithathledmeintoanother。Isitnotyouropinionthatbyoursensesweperceiveonlytheideasexistinginourminds?

  。Itis。

  。Buttheideawhichisinmymindcannotbeinyours,orinanyothermind。Dothitnotthereforefollow,fromyourprinciples,thatnotwocanseethesamething?Andisnotthishighly,absurd?

  。Ifthetermbetakeninthevulgaracceptation,itiscertainandnotatallrepugnanttotheprinciplesImaintainthatdifferentpersonsmayperceivethesamething;orthesamethingorideaexistindifferentminds。

  Wordsareofarbitraryimposition;and,sincemenareusedtoapplythewordwherenodistinctionorvarietyisperceived,andIdonotpretendtoaltertheirperceptions,itfollowsthat,asmenhavesaidbefore,,sotheymay,uponlikeoccasions,stillcontinuetousethesamephrase,withoutanydeviationeitherfromproprietyoflanguage,orthetruthofthings。But,ifthetermbeusedintheacceptationofphilosophers,whopretendtoanabstractednotionofidentity,then,accordingtotheirsundrydefinitionsofthisnotionforitisnotyetagreedwhereinthatphilosophicidentityconsists,itmayormaynotbepossiblefordiverspersonstoperceivethesamething。Butwhetherphilosophersshallthinkfittoathingtheno,is,I

  conceive,ofsmallimportance。Letussupposeseveralmentogether,allenduedwiththesamefaculties,andconsequentlyaffectedinlikesortbytheirsenses,andwhohadyetneverknowntheuseoflanguage;theywould,withoutquestion,agreeintheirperceptions。Thoughperhaps,whentheycametotheuseofspeech,someregardingtheuniformnessofwhatwasperceived,mightcallitthething:others,especially{248}

  regardingthediversityofpersonswhoperceived,mightchoosethedenominationofthings。Butwhoseesnotthatallthedisputeisaboutaword?towit,whether。whatisperceivedbydifferentpersonsmayyethavethetermappliedtoit?

  Or,supposeahouse,whosewallsoroutwardshellremainingunaltered,thechambersareallpulleddown,andnewonesbuiltintheirplace;andthatyoushouldcallthisthe,andI

  shouldsayitwasnotthehouse——wouldwenot,forallthis,perfectlyagreeinourthoughtsofthehouse,consideredinitself?Andwouldnotallthedifferenceconsistinasound?Ifyoushouldsay,Wedifferedinournotions;forthatyousuper-

  addedtoyourideaofthehousethesimpleabstractedideaofidentity,whereasIdidnot;Iwouldtellyou,Iknownotwhatyoumeanby;andshoulddesireyoutolookintoyourownthoughts,andbesureyouunderstoodyourself——Whysosilent,Hylas?Areyounotyetsatisfiedmenmaydisputeaboutidentityanddiversity,withoutanyrealdifferenceintheirthoughtsandopinions,abstractedfromnames?

  Takethisfartherreflexionwithyou:thatwhetherMatterbeallowedtoexistorno,thecaseisexactlythesameastothepointinhand。FortheMaterialiststhemselvesacknowledgewhatweimmediatelyperceivebyoursensestobeourownideas。Yourdifficulty,therefore,thatnotwoseethesamething,makesequallyagainsttheMaterialistsandme。

  。[Ay,Philonous,][10]Buttheysupposeanexternalarchetype,towhichreferringtheirseveralideastheymaytrulybesaidtoperceivethesamething。

  。Andnottomentionyourhavingdiscardedthosearchetypessomayyousupposeanexternalarchetypeonmyprinciples;——,,:thoughindeeditmustbe\'supposedtoexistinthatMindwhichcomprehendsallthings;butthen,thisservesalltheendsof,aswellasifitexistedoutofamind。AndIamsureyouyourselfwillnotsayitislessintelligible。

  。Youhaveindeedclearlysatisfiedme——eitherthatthereisnodifficultyatbottominthispoint;or,iftherebe,thatitmakesequallyagainstbothopinions。

  。Butthatwhichmakesequallyagainsttwocontradictoryopinionscanbeaproofagainstneither。

  。Iacknowledgeit。But,afterall,Philonous,whenI

  consider{249}thesubstanceofwhatyouadvanceagainst,itamountstonomorethanthis:Wearesurethatwereallysee,hear,feel;inaword,thatweareaffectedwithsensibleimpressions。

  。Andhowareconcernedanyfarther?Iseethischerry,Ifeelit,Itasteit:andIamsurecannotbeseen,orfelt,or。tasted:itisthereforered。Takeawaythesensationsofsoftness,moisture,redness,tartness,andyoutakeawaythecherry,sinceitisnotabeingdistinctfromsensations。Acherry,Isay,isnothingbutacongeriesofsensibleimpressions,orideasperceivedbyvarioussenses:whichideasareunitedintoonethingorhaveonenamegiventhembythemind,becausetheyareobservedtoattendeachother。Thus,whenthepalateisaffectedwithsuchaparticulartaste,thesightisaffectedwitharedcolour,thetouchwithroundness,softness,&c。Hence,whenIsee,andfeel,andtaste,insuchsundrycertainmanners,Iamsurethecherryexists,orisreal;

  itsrealitybeinginmyopinionnothingabstractedfromthosesensations。Butifbythewordyou,meananunknownnature,distinctfromallthosesensiblequalities,andbyitssomethingdistinctfromitsbeingperceived;then,indeed,Iown,neitheryounorI,noranyoneelse,canbesureitexists。

  。But,whatwouldyousay,Philonous,ifIshouldbringtheverysamereasonsagainsttheexistenceofsensiblethings,whichyouhaveofferedagainsttheirexisting?

  。WhenIseeyourreasons,youshallhearwhatIhavetosay,tothem。

  。Isthemindextendedorunextended?

  。Unextended,withoutdoubt。

  。Doyousaythethingsyouperceiveareinyourmind?

  。Theyare。

  。Again,haveInotheardyouspeakofsensibleimpressions?

  。Ibelieveyoumay。

  。Explaintomenow,0Philonous!howitispossiblethereshouldberoomforallthosetreesandhousestoexistinyourmind。Canextendedthingsbecontainedinthatwhichisunextended?Or,arewetoimagineimpressionsmadeonathingvoidofallsolidity?Youcannotsayobjectsareinyourmind,asbooksinyourstudy:orthatthingsareimprintedonit,asthefigureofasealuponwax。Inwhatsense,therefore,arewetounderstandthoseexpressions?Explainmethisifyoucan:andI

  shallthenbeabletoanswerallthosequeriesyouformerlyputtomeaboutmy。

  。Lookyou,Hylas,whenIspeakofobjectsasexistinginthemind,orimprintedonthesenses,Iwouldnotbeunderstoodinthegrossliteralsense;aswhenbodiesaresaidtoexistinaplace,orasealtomakeanimpressionuponwax。Mymeaningisonlythatthemindcomprehendsorperceivesthem;andthatitisaffectedfromwithout,orbysomebeingdistinctfromitself。Thisismyexplicationofyourdifficulty;andhowitcanservetomakeyourtenetofanunperceivingmaterial

  intelligible,Iwouldfainknow。

  。Nay,ifthatbeall,IconfessIdonotseewhatusecanbemadeofit。Butareyounotguiltyofsomeabuseoflanguageinthis?

  。Noneatall。Itisnomorethancommoncustom,whichyouknowistheruleoflanguage,hathauthorised:nothingbeingmoreusual,thanforphilosopherstospeakoftheimmediateobjectsoftheunderstandingasthingsexistinginthemind。\'Noristhereanythinginthisbutwhatisconformabletothegeneralanalogyoflanguage;mostpartofthementaloperationsbeingsignifiedbywordsborrowedfromsensiblethings;asisplainintheterms,reflect,,&。,which,beingappliedtothemind,mustnotbetakenintheirgross,originalsense。

  。Youhave,Iown,satisfiedmeinthispoint。Buttherestillremainsonegreatdifficulty,whichIknownothowyouwillgetover。And,indeed,itisofsuchimportancethatifyoucouldsolveallothers,withoutbeingabletofindasolutionforthis,youmustneverexpecttomakemeaproselytetoyourprinciples。

  。Letmeknowthismightydifficulty。

  。TheScriptureaccountofthecreationiswhatappearstomeutterlyirreconcilablewithyournotions。Mosestellsusofacreation:acreationofwhat?ofideas?No,certainly,butofthings,ofrealthings,solidcorporealsubstances。Bringyourprinciplestoagreewiththis,andIshallperhapsagreewithyou。

  。Mosesmentionsthesun,moon,andstars,earthandsea,plantsandanimals。Thatallthesedoreallyexist,andwereinthebeginningcreatedbyGod,Imakenoquestion。{251}Ifbyyoumeanfictionsandfanciesofthemind,thenthesearenoideas。Ifbyyoumeanimmediateobjectsoftheunderstanding,orsensiblethings,whichcannotexistunperceived,oroutofamind,thenthesethingsareideas。Butwhetheryoudoordonotcallthem,matterslittle。

  Thedifferenceisonlyaboutaname。And,whetherthatnameberetainedorrejected,thesense,thetruth,andrealityofthingscontinuesthesame。Incommontalk,theobjectsofoursensesarenottermed,but。Callthemsostill:providedyoudonotattributetothemanyabsoluteexternalexistence,andIshallneverquarrelwithyouforaword。Thecreation,therefore,Iallowtohavebeenacreationofthings,of

  things。Neitheristhisintheleastinconsistentwithmyprinciples,asisevidentfromwhatIhavenowsaid;andwouldhavebeenevidenttoyouwithoutthis,ifyouhadnotforgottenwhathadbeensooftensaidbefore。Butasforsolidcorporealsubstances,IdesireyoutoshowwhereMosesmakesanymentionofthem;and,iftheyshouldbementionedbyhim,oranyotherinspiredwriter,itwouldstillbeincumbentonyoutoshewthosewordswerenottakeninthevulgaracceptation,forthingsfallingunderoursenses,butinthephilosophicacceptation,forMatter,or,。

  Whenyouhaveprovedthesepoints,thenandnottillthenmayyoubringtheauthorityofMosesintoourdispute。

  。Itisinvaintodisputeaboutapointsoclear。Iamcontenttoreferittoyourownconscience。AreyounotsatisfiedthereissomepeculiarrepugnancybetweentheMosaicaccountofthecreationandyournotions?

  。IfallpossiblesensewhichcanbeputonthefirstchapterofGenesismaybeconceivedasconsistentlywithmyprinciplesasanyother,thenithasnopeculiarrepugnancywiththem。Butthereisnosenseyoumaynotaswellconceive,believingasIdo。Since,besidesspirits,allyouconceiveareideas;andtheexistenceoftheseIdonotdeny。Neitherdoyoupretendtheyexistwithoutthemind。

  。Prayletmeseeanysenseyoucanunderstanditin。

  。Why,IimaginethatifIhadbeenpresentatthecreation,Ishouldhaveseenthingsproducedintobeing——thatisbecomeperceptible——intheorderprescribedbythesacredhistorian。IeverbeforebelievedtheMosaicaccountofthecreation,andnowfindnoalterationinmymannerofbelievingit。Whenthingsaresaidtobeginorendtheirexistence,we{252}donotmeanthiswithregardtoGod,butHiscreatures。AllobjectsareeternallyknownbyGod,or,whichisthesamething,haveaneternalexistenceinHismind:butwhenthings,beforeimperceptibletocreatures,are,byadecreeofGod,perceptibletothem,thenaretheysaidtobeginarelativeexistence,withrespecttocreatedminds。UponreadingthereforetheMosaicaccountofthecreation,Iunderstandthattheseveralpartsoftheworldbecamegraduallyperceivabletofinitespirits,endowedwithproperfaculties;sothat,whoeversuchwerepresent,theywereintruthperceivedbythem。ThisistheliteralobvioussensesuggestedtomebythewordsoftheHolyScripture:inwhichisincludednomention,ornothought,eitherof,

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